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World War lll

Late last night, I (Amanda) had a little “clash” with @TheRobSwanson. Obviously nothing new for him. Rob specifically tweeted, “Just finished filming at @AlfredoFlores’s house with @SQJINSU.”  See, Rob always seems to try way too hard to get attention, and makes it obvious.

I tweeted Rob a couple of times, and he replied, saying “yawnnn.” And I think we all realize by now, he never has anything to say, to stand up for himself. He’s cocky, and doesn’t know when to shut up. He also, called a girl, a bitch. Not a shocker to me, and doesn’t surprise me one bit.

So, between him tweeting other people, I tweeted him asking how he was at Alfredo’s house. Just the other day Jinsu was on twitter bad mouthing Alfredo and calling him a “soft ass niqqa.” And Alfredo was tweeting about how Justin is the good guy. And “good guys always win.”

Now the next day they’re all good enough to be at his place? It didn’t make any sense. We looked at Alfredo’s twitter to see if he had said anything, and the weird thing is that he’s actually in New Jersey spending time with his family for his birthday. A fan that lives in New Jersey had tweeted us and told us that they spotted him at the mall as well. So, how could Rob and Jinsu be at his place in LA? Here’s what Rob had to say about it:

I’d suggest you don’t go to his page looking for it because like always, he deleted that tweet– another cry for attention. And if you follow him, you most likely know, almost every tweet is to get attention. This isn’t the first time he has brought someone innocent into his web of lies or cries for attention. Two days ago he tweeted something about a new project in the works with another artist in Hollywood. Her name is Avery. And let’s just say she had no idea what was going on when Rob started tweeting her saying that he was gonna start filming with her. Rob blamed it on a misunderstanding, but it really didn’t seem like that at all.

Here’s Avery and Rob’s “disagreement” on twitter.

So, Moving on..

After beliebers found out that Rob and Jinsu trespassed Alfredo’s property. Some were pretty angry and upset with these two. Most were tweeting around, and trying to make it aware to Alfredo that he should get some better security around the place. Other Beliebers and some Selenators decided to bring Jasmine into the drama. Which was completely uncalled for. This is about Jinsu and Rob. They didn’t need to send their hate towards Jasmine just because she is associated with the two. A few of them tweeted her saying that she should “keep Jinsu on a leash“, “she deserves way better“, “she needs better friends“, etc. Jasmine doesn’t control Jinsu. She’s not his brain. Jinsu is a man who says what he wants. People shouldn’t bring up Jasmine, Jasmine’s mom, or Jasmine’s brothers just because you feel like they should stop this.

Here’s what Jasmine had to say about all the hate she was getting.

Just when we thought the indirect tweets towards each other was over, You thought wrong. It has only just begun. Jinsu was doing what he does best today, which is creating drama. Here’s the buzz today:

1) I really don’t understand why Jinsu has to bring everything on twitter? He’s basically airing out all his dirty laundry for everyone to see. Jinsu should keep this off twitter and stick to dealing with all this drama in private. It brings so much tension between everyone and it’s very unneeded.

2) Scooter is a tool. This is not your battle to fight. Scooter doesn’t need to be butting into all of this teenage drama. Doesn’t he have a Bieber finance to pay attention too? Business meetings to attend? Or just anything that a normal 30-year-old would do? It feels like Scooter gets into Justin’s business more than his own parents do. You shouldn’t be so quick to point fingers at Jinsu just because he’s the one that’s tweeting about it. We don’t know what happened in the phone conversation, and we probably never will. Things could have been said that made Jinsu act this way. Think about it.

Any who.. besides all of this drama, word on the street is that the video Rob and Jinsu filmed yesterday on Alfredo’s property was a video for all the Beliebers. It comes out sometime tomorrow or next week. What do you think their video is about? Do you think that it was trespassing, even if Rob claims that ‘it was an open apartment complex‘?

XOXOPLB

Twitter War

So, if you aren’t aware of the immense “Jasmine vs. Selena” drama that has been rising via the Twitter world, you must live under a rock. Ever since Justin and Selena started ‘dating’ and becoming more publicized it seems like everyone has been comparing Jasmine and Selena. Whether it came to dancing, singing, acting, showing more love to their fans. The two teen stars have been compared a lot. The main topic they’ve been compared in is who is better… for Justin. Last night, like almost every other night since “Jelena”, drama arose on Twitter. And this incident was actually worth laughing over.

It all started with a tweet (Lol, fairytale remix.) Jasmine tweeted a Selena hater on May 31st:

First, let’s explain this. The Selena hater (who has now changed their twitter name to @iSupportJasV), tweeted Jasmine about how much she loved her and how big of a fan she was of her and her music. Since Jasmine was replying to her fans that day, like she does daily, Jasmine replied to the hate account. Which was the wrong move.

Jasmine soon got hate from the tweets. The percentage of those hate tweets were from Selenators and Jelenators of course. Everyone suddenly went on saying Jasmine was jealous of Selena.

There were many other tweets that dwelled in the “you’re just jealous” excuse. Jasmine tweeted some of the haters that were replying her on twitter. Here are a few tweets to haters she replied:

LOL -DEAD- Haha

Someone then asked Jasmine if she hated Selena, and her reply was, I guess you’ll have to see for yourself:

Jasmine also tweeted something stating “everything that’s fake eventually comes to an end”

This was very soon caught on by Jelenators and they went all monkey balls on Jasmine. Jasmine didn’t go complaining to magazines about the hate. She laughed if off, finished tweeting her fans and the drama was done for the day. Though, she’s been getting non-stop hate ever since from Selenators, she continues to ignore it.

–Now, let’s skip to where all the Justin vs. Jinsu drama happened.

Yesterday, the Biebster went all #badboy on us, and indirectly tweeted about Jinsu. Shortly after, Jinsu DIRECTLY tweeted Justin back.

Lol, ‘rookie’… haha. Alright, anyways! This was so uncalled for on both parties (see what I did there? I’m going politics on you guys ;D)

1.) Justin tweeting “go sell some records bro” is only showing that he thinks he’s better than Jinsu because he sells more albums. Seriously, Justin has accomplished a bit more than the KING Michael Jackson when it comes to Never Say Never movie sales, MSG, and a few young awards. So does that mean Justin is better than MJ because he sold more ticket sales than MJ in a week? No, never. I don’t think that should even matter how many albums you sell, unless you’re only in it for the sales, not the passion for music.. Which should be the only reason you’re doing this, right Justin?

2.) Justin would of been better off just saying “Some people just want attention. lol”

3.) For the other tweet, I can agree on because a lot of Beliebers were actually following Jinsu before and after this Twitter war. Most of Jinsu’s fans on twitter are Jasminators/Beliebers that found his music through Jasmine and so on. So props to Justin for being aware and creeping through Jinsu’s tweets. But it seems like with ‘Jelena’, Selena’s recent magazine covers mention a LOT of Justin. Wonder if Justin realizes he gives her more attention as well..

4.) Justin did play his cards right though. If he would of tweeted Jinsu directly, that would of caused more tension and more people would of found out about Jinsu in the first place. But sadly, people talk. Soon after, we all knew who Justin was talking about.

-You’re probably wondering how this all even started out with Jinsu… let’s  rewind, shall we? *makes magical dream noise that are usually overplayed on Disney shows*

For the past few days people have been tweeting Jinsu- @SQJinsu (Jasmine V’s new boyfriend) all kind of hate. And Jinsu has been sticking up for his girlfriend Jasmine no matter what.

A belieber tweeted Jinsu saying that Jasmine was jealous of Selena and that Jasmine was uglier than Selena and he simply replied back to this:

And that’s how him becoming involved in all of this started.

He’s dating Jasmine. That’s the most beautiful girl in his eyes at the moment. Both Selena and Jasmine are gorgeous. Selenators called Jasmine ugly, then Jinsu said Jasmine looks better. He never went on Selena saying “she’s ugly.” Simple as that.

People were also saying that Jinsu was a real man for sticking up for Jasmine and their relationship. Jinsu ended up RTing a lot of it:


Jinsu can tweet whatever he wants about this since it was involving him. But he should of just ignored RT’ing those. Why? Because then beliebers, once again, assume that he thinks he’s better than Justin. The RT’d tweets are basically saying that Justin and Selena don’t have a real relationship like Jinsu and Jasmine. Which is sad but true, I don’t think Justin would ever stick up for his relationship or Selena to his fans in that case. No one even knew Justin and Jasmine were dating before because Justin didn’t admit it. But ‘Jelena’ is different than what Jasmine and Jinsu have. So comparing their relationships probably isn’t going anywhere. It most definitely won’t change ‘Jelena.’ Jinsu created more drama involving himself by even RT’ing those tweets. He could of tweeted about it and went on with his day, ignoring everything else. He most definitely made everything worse.

Some of the hate Beliebers/Selenators have been sending in are were way too much. They weren’t even necessary to anything at all. The tweets have ranged from Jinsu/Jasmine being untalented, to all the way bashing on Jinsu and Jasmine just because of their race and ethnics. Many people were calling Jasmine a Mexican, how she’s ‘gross’, how she’s dating a N*gger, how Justin is better.. Basically a lot of ignorance and BS if you ask me. Here are some of the tweets caught that Jinsu/Jasmine’s mom RT’d, though there were a lot more:

These tweets were before the Justin vs. Jinsu drama even happened. When Jinsu and Justin were in their little argument, some people who claimed they are just true beliebers sticking up for Justin people that should die in a hole, started sending Jinsu a lot more racist remarks, as well as Jasmine and her mom (@quad_JmomV) as well.

Jinsu didn’t even mind that he was being called all these things. Because he STILL stood up for Jasmine and ignored the racial remarks:

Honestly, this was all just irrelevant. I applaud Jinsu for sticking up for his girl Jasmine even though Selenators/Beliebers were offending him. He got my respect for that. I don’t think him calling Jasmine prettier is a bad thing, at all. Although, he still wanted attention from the topic overall, I would of went crazy if I was sent racial hate. Like seriously it’s 2011. Some people need to take their ass back to the 1950’s if they want to tweet that. This all just started because Jinsu was trying to stick up for Jasmine in the first place, and it all got to his head. I guess Jinsu thought he could get more attention just by going along with the drama, instead of ignoring it. Which is what happened.

1.) The fact that Jasmine haters were even tweeting Jinsu first is totally irrelevant to anything. You don’t like JASMINE. So why do you have to tweet her boyfriend? And the reason for you not liking her is because she tweeted a hater of your ‘Goddess’ Selena? Tweeting Jinsu was basically bringing the drama to him. He is not going to step away from that. It all just added more fuel to the fire. If you look at Jinsu’s earlier tweets it didn’t even revolve around Selena/Bieber BS. He only started tweeting about it, after he was flooded with hate. He even ignored a majority of it that were flooding his mentions in the beginning (after Jasmine RT’d that Selena hater on May 31st.)

2.) Jinsu had every right to stick up for his girl. I mean what guy wouldn’t. Even Bieber himself claims he’d to anything for his girl and protect her from harm. And that’s exactly what Jinsu was doing to everyone hating on Jasmine. It’s not like he just jumped up and decided to tweet about it. If it weren’t for Seliebers tweeting him and Jasmine constantly, none of this drama would of even occurred. Honestly if you think about it, it’s true.

3.) You can tell Jinsu didn’t regret anything he tweeted. Why? Because he did it for Jasmine. Do you think he enjoyed being called a Nigger, ape, untalented, etc by ‘Beliebers’? NO. But he wouldn’t take any of his actions back because his feelings for Jasmine are that strong. Lets be honest, that’s what real boyfriends would go through for their girlfriend if they REALLY truly cared that much. Jinsu shouldn’t of had to go through that in the first place. I don’t know if all Beliebers know this, but discrimination is the low. The only thing you proved when you were ‘sticking up for Justin’ is that some of you are so willing to do anything for Justin, you’ll put other people down because of their race just to make Justin look higher. That is all. Justin should of most definitely said something about the racial acts. It seriously makes him look bad too because a lot of people judge Justin based on his fans. Which is one of the reasons some people have hate toward the Biebs in the first place- because of his fans’ actions.

4.) Now that this drama has occurred, Jinsu is more known. Along with that, the drama between Justin, Jinsu and Jasmine has surfaced to the top. Good thing Jasmine is ignoring it. Well at least on Twitter anyways…

Justin, as usual, gave us the “kill em with kindness” tweet and Jinsu seemed to agree:

But then, Jinsu went on talking about the situation. It’s like he found all the drama that occurred entertaining. It certainly seemed that he wanted more from it. While Justin, or Scooter (whoever was on Justin’s account) went on a RT’ing spree and continued watching the basketball game.

Then, like every other time, we have all of Justin’s other crew members suddenly signing on and adding their take to the feud:

It seems like everyone wanted to get involved somehow in this, and it’s just too funny.

1.) I remember when Scooter did that ‘Answer’ tinychat on January 4, of  2011, in which he talked about those ‘Jelena’ pictures of them on Christmas break that leaked. And SOMEHOW he happened to bring up Jasmine in it to take the blame off of Justin and Selena’s pictures. *go to 1:00 onward*

If you have the FULL tinychat video with Scooter, send it in. Basically Scooter was talking about how Justin wasn’t dating Selena because he didn’t see them kissing, but he did see JASMINE kissing Justin. That just caused more hate towards Jasmine on Scooter’s behalf. First of all, Jasmine kissing Justin was months prior to anything. So the fact that Scooter would go all the way back just to put somewhat of blame on Jasmine instead of Justin and Selena is truly tacky. To be honest, Scooter is the most publicized manager ever. He’s always with Justin even on some of Justin’s ‘dates’ with Selena, therefore everyone knows him.

2.) I thought Alfredo and Jinsu have been working together… Mhmm, this might put a dent in their relationship.

3.) Kenny’s just hilarious, I can’t even. Haha. Wow!

Even Mr. Rob had a lot to say, like he always does… Rob Swanson (@TheRobSwanson) went monkey balls and completely bashed Justin and Selena last night. If you don’t know who Rob is; basically he’s a Director/Editor in LA. He was good friends with Justin and he went on the My World Tour with the Biebs. Rob worked with him on many occasions with tour and all. Now they completely dislike each other for their own reasons. Surprise, surprise- one of those reasons include Scooter. Scooter, why are you always mentioned in all this teenage drama? Mhm.. anywho, Rob is still close friends with Jasmine, Jinsu, Jessica Jarrell, the Beadles and many other celebs and stars connected with Justin. Rob even tweeted this last night:

Then he quickly deleted it. Sadly, Scooter tweets for Justin 85% of the time and it’s increased a lot recently dude to all the drama going around. I think everyone knows that so let’s not even get into it.  About the mail/art, I guess a few people know about that from watching iJever’s video- in which iJever showed how a fan made a scrapbook for Justin, then Justin told the guard to give it back to her because he didn’t want it and so on. (Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHBJCYcmY-Y)

I don’t know why Rob and Justin’s crew were even tweeting all of this though. The twitter fight was between Jinsu and Justin. Even Jasmine didn’t tweet anything about this mess, and it involved her! She’s smart and knows that tweeting anything about it causes a bigger problem.

Jasmine’s brother, an aspiring rapper, JDrew even had something to say as well:


I think by us viewing some of these tweets, it’s obvious that this drama didn’t all just start because of what Jinsu tweeted. There’s been tension between Jinsu and Justin months prior to all of this. Surprisingly, they all revolve around stupid drama that went down when Jasmine was on the My World Tour and started seeing Jinsu after her and Justin split up. As well as the drama between Selena and Jasmine personally within the recent months. Also, keep in mind that Jinsu and Justin have many mutual friends, if they’re BOTH talking about each other, word gets out to them- causing even more tension, hatred and jealousy. The tweets are deeper than what Jinsu RT’d about Selena.

If Justin was even tweeting that for Selena, Justin would of put a hint of that reason in there.

-I, for sure did not see Selena’s name anywhere in Justin’s tweets.

I don’t think Justin would stick up for Selena against Jinsu. Why? Because so many Beliebers dislike Selena and tweet worse stuff about her, so Justin might as well tweet his fans too, correct? Exactly.

I doubt it was just Justin sticking up for himself in some case either. A good amount of Justin’s old friends from Stratford have been saying he’s changed and how they don’t like him now, even hating on him and Selena coming back to Canada, but Justin doesn’t tweet anything against them about that. So why would he tweet Jinsu about it? What’s so big about that drama with Jinsu? It certainly is deeper than what we’re shown. Seems like their Twitter war is more about JASMINE than it is about Selena. Who knows, maybe Justin might still like Jasmine..

Jinsu and Justin are both different people. Selena and Jasmine are both different people. There’s no need to compare them. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.

Hopefully, they call each other and talk it out. If you ask me, #teamjustin and #teamjinsu is not necessary. Not only because more people will be on Justin’s side because he’s more famous, but because of the fact their Twitter fight was boring to be honest. Rihanna and Ciara’s Twitter war was WAY better.

Good luck with bookin that stage u speak of” HAHAHAHAHAHA -dead- Oh, Rihanna, how you crack me up. #teamrihanna..

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“I probably won’t date a fan” Real or Fake DM?

So someone sent us this link to a Tumblr that had this DM on it:

Within the past week Justin has been sending DM’s to basically almost everyone that has said he’s changed, so this wouldn’t be a surprise. But it looks iffy. Still not sure who this DM was sent to if it’s true, or who posted it, we’ll update on this. But I’ll let you decide for yourself on this specific DM. Real or fake?

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Six Flags Over Texas

Yesterday, Jelena was taking over Hawaii. Today, Jover was spotted taking over Texas. Good thing Texas is big enough for their teenage hormones

Is it just me, or is this more like an actual teenage relationship; but than again, most teen relationships are real.

J: Look I know we just made sweet love in Hawaii, but I'm still not ready to call Selena my girlfriend.

**Update: We recently spotted this photo of them on a rollercoaster at Six Flags.

Justin and Selena in the front 2 seats, and strangers in the back. Lol at those people in the background staring at the camera..-

Mhm, I’ve never been on that ride. Looks fun..

Are you really surprise that Ryan tweeted Justin:

I mean, that’s the least you can do for someone who paid for you to go to Spain and Italy, including a D&G party. I really wouldn’t be all that surprise to see more tweets like this out of Ryan; and who knows, maybe Chaz will tweet something similar in hopes of getting dibs on the next vacay with his homeboy. He’s kinda been excluded out of the St. Lucia, Spain, etc vacation. Poor Chaz.

-And for anyone who will be at Disney World in Florida this weekend, keep an eye out for Justin and Selena. It’s been reported by an anonymous emailer that Justin will be in Florida this weekend to pick out a present for Jazzy, then he will make his way back to Canada to surprise her with her birthday present on Monday.

Who knows what’s next for these teen idol, who of course, are traveling with all the money you’ve spent on shirts, and tickets, and cds. No worries though, at least he’s going to his sister’s birthday. Wonder who else might be joining…

XOXOPLB

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Jelena EXPOSED: The Timeline

We all have our own opinions. If you’re a huge Jelena supporter it’s YOUR choice to read or not to read. We’re not forcing you to do anything. We’re proving a point.

You don’t have to read anything you don’t want to. We’re just taking this into another perspective instead of the “perspective” of the people making MONEY off of ‘Jelena’ and the perspective of Jelenators saying everything Justin and Selena do is perfect.

Howdy again, perceptive readers 😉 So as you guys know, we get hate like every week. Hate from Selenators and hate from Beliebers who think we need to “respect Jelena.” We aren’t complaining though, we actually love all the attention. It’s actually funny, because unlike most Selenators or Jelenators we respect all opinions. Even if you 100% disagree with us. Plus, we love proving them wrong. Keep in mind, we never post anything without any proof. This whole blog is based on proof and exposing the truth. It’s also our opinion on everything analyzed or opinions of people associated with Justin. And if you actually take another perspective, instead of being so obsessed with your own belief, you’ll realize what we say actually makes sense. We go back and forth with these people because we are determined for every single person in the Twitterverse to believe us when we say Jelena is as fake as a three dollar bill and both Justin and Selena are faking Jelena.  90% of our readers believe us when we say Jelena is not real, then we have the 10% that stay hating and being in denial against our posts. So this post, this post goes out to that 10%. This goes out to the people in denial. We love you haters so we are about to single handedly make you eat your words up like no other.

“One less lonely New Year”

You know we had to start off with New years 2010. If you don’t know, Justin and Selena spent New Years 2010 in Times Square together at the Ball Drop ceremony and performed One Less Lonely girl together. Well, Justin performed and Selena just kinda sat there looking awkward until the end. Any who Justin serenaded Selena and she just looked awkward. The whole time she was just smiling and looking around like “Oh, kids. They sing the darnedest things!” If you have never seen the performance, you might wanna take a look.

Justin looked very genuine during that performance and looked like he was having a fun time. Selena looked like she was trying too hard. Sure, it was nice of her to come out there but the way she looked at him was like he was a little baby. Plus, Justin went out there with his broken ankle and all. Let’s hope she didn’t bruise his pride too much. But then she stood up and started dancing and singing along. Don’t know why, but she did and it looked awkward because she was so tall next to him.

If it wasn’t obvious enough, for Justin that performance wasn’t really fake. We think he genuinely liked her at that time. In 2009 he’d had a couple interviews before where he would say she was “only pretty” but he didn’t like her. This performance was probably the one where he began to like her, because straight after that they were rumored to hang out ever so often and become ‘best friends.’

Skip to 6:53 and listen to the conversation. The interviewer goes “Who’s your number two pick?” and Justin says, “I think Selena Gomez is pretty. But I don’t like her. I think she’s cute, I think she’s a cutie but…” And then they proceed to talk about what could happen between them in the future. (This video was posted September 29th, 2009. So he must have said that some time before that date.) Late 2009 Justin was just everywhere talking about Selena and how he didn’t ‘like’ her, he just thought she was pretty. But I think you and I both know Justin had a bit of a crush on little Ms. Gomez. Even though around that time, Selena didn’t really care. Before Justin’s HUGE burst of fame last year, Selena wasn’t anywhere talking about Justin even though she most likely knew Justin had a little crush on her, until…

HOLD UP. Lets go a little further back before the dates began.

Selena Gomez’s DREAM OUT LOUD.

This honestly, is the confusing part. It confuses everyone, including us.

Well, who has seen Selena’s Dream Out Loud behind the scenes video? I have. Maybe you haven’t but here’s a screen shoot of one of the screen shots.

Surprise, Surprise, now look at that. The Justin Bieber sticker. Now why in the world would they zoom into that? Perhaps It was zoomed in on purpose. Perhaps they knew a fan would see it. Yes and yes? What I find funny though is this was around the time Justin supposedly had something with Ms. Villegas. So the fact that Selena has his sticker is just confusing to me. Unless Justin is a two-timer.. then that’s another story.

Now this was way before they started thinking of each other in the girlfriend/boyfriend way. And way before they even started hanging out a lot.

Now, who else would tell the camera man to zoom in her cell phone? Perhaps, Selena herself? Maybe, maybe not. But the possibility could be..

Selena’s Stage Mom.

Now, when a celebrity has a manager it’s nothing unusual. But, when the celebrity’s manager is their mom, it says a lot. It says your mom is a stage mom. A stage mom is someone who pushes their child to be famous.

This comes to us as no surprise. Selena’s mom, Mandy Cornett also wanted to be a famous actress but wasn’t successful. Mandy’s aspirations to be a famous actress must have something to do with why Selena is famous today. When you have a stage mom who happens to be your manager, you don’t exactly have a lot of room to make your own decisions. Selena does what Mandy wants. Trust us when we tell you that Mandy is the type of person who wants fame. So, it shouldn’t surprise you that Selena met Justin through her mom from a call from Justin’s own manager, Scooter. It seems like Jelena’s ‘people’ are basically in control of their whole lives. No wonder why these teen celebs seem lost. Selena actually knew Justin a year before he became famous. But they were still ‘brother and sister‘ so she would “never think of him THAT way.”

Okay. Moving on.

– until….

The “Dates” Begin

October was when everything blew up for Justin and Selena. Selena was everywhere being asked about Justin, and she was just sticking to her same little line. Saying the same things, over and over. “He’s like my little brother!” “He’s a dork!” “He’s little!” Everywhere. Every interview, every question, same answer. This went all through October and November.

He’s a dork.’ – October 1st, 2010.

He’s little.’ – October, 14th 2010.

‘He’s like my little brother!’ – October 18th, 2010

(Notice how Selena replied so quickly to that statement Ellen made, and her reaction was so fake. She looked out into the audience too right when she said “WHAT?!” It didn’t look real. Probably planned out by their people, keep denying)

My question is, through all these interviews how Selena is saying she’s “known Justin for so long” and “Hangs with him,” when had she ever hung out with him personally in 2010, before October? (Which again is around the time Justin and Ms. Villegas had something going..) I recall Justin touring through most of 2010 so how was there ever any room for them to become ‘best friends‘? Selena was filming WOWP, doing her clothing line and working a lot overall. Justin was making a book, doing concerts nightly and hectic interviews/schedules. So I want to know, why all of a sudden Selena was saying that. It’s funny how she all of a sudden went from ignoring him to hanging out with him ‘ever so often.’

Straight after these interviews passed was when everything went down with ‘Jelena’ Starting with…

OUTING ONE: LE HAUNTED HOUSE DATE. – NOVEMBER 1st, 2010.
This must have been the funniest thing ever for us. Justin made it too obvious that this was just a little publicity stunt. The night of November 1st, Justin and his buddies were out at a haunted house. As you know, they were not alone. “Who were they accompanied by?” You ask? Well the answer to that cute little question of yours is obviously, Selena Gomez. They were both in California at the time and Justin made it too obvious that they were together. “But how is this a publicity stunt?” You ask. Well the night of the haunted house date Justin tweeted:
Why, Justin? Why would you tweet that if you were just in a haunted house with her? (And we’re assuming he does have her number. Because, I mean, according to Selena they “have been best friends for like years” or something, right?) I’m pretty sure Justin could have texted Selena that instead of going on twitter and slipping that tweet in. Some people are saying he didn’t have to. But Justin, if you’re really “trying to avoid drama” and you “want your life private” why would you tweet that for your millions of followers to see? He knew it was going to start something, which is exactly why he tweeted it. Then what do you know? More Jelena ‘dating’ rumors occur. Now I’m not saying this was Justin’s plan, but we are not that stupid. Come on, dude.
Next date was a little smaller, and not that big a deal. Same exact date of the last outing, a little weird. But it was still a date, none the less. It’s what we like to refer to as…
OUTING TWO: LE FOOTBALL FUN: November 1st 2010.
Let me just point out that this wasn’t at a random football game. No, Justin did not just pop into a random high school stadium and go “Looks like a swag football stadium, let’s sit here and watch it!” Even though that would be something Justin would say. But no, this was Will Smith’s oldest son (Trey Smith)’s football game at Moorpark, California. Justin joined Jaden and Will to the game and brought along his date, Selena. Honestly, for a date Justin didn’t look to excited to be there. He was tweeting on his phone the whole time and thanking his fans for not getting too wild at his arrival. So what kind of date is it when you’re not focused on the girl, nor the game? Sounds fun.
Next date was big. Out of all dates this was the one people made the most out of…
OUTING THREE: LE PANCAKE DATE – December 9th 2010.
If this didn’t spark up rumors, I don’t know what did. First of all, what’s with the sitting on the same side of the booth. On a date you are supposed to sit at opposite sides so you can look into the person’s eyes, so what was that? (UD: The people at the diner also stated that Justin and Selena basically spent the whole time just fooling around and looked very ‘touchy‘) Couldn’t you guys of just done that at your hotel room? Instead of having to go out in public? Then, they left with their heads down and linked arms. That’s how you were able to tell they were already an ‘item.’ (Unless you link arms with your little brother and go on iHop dates with him too, because that’s totally understandable.) Anyway, on this date was when Selena began to just become sarcastic and lie. This was when people began to dislike her. She was interviewed by MTV a couple days after and explained the whole thing. Saying it was “all innocent” Right, We’re sure it was.
What kills me Selena asks the questions that are most irrelevant. “Who doesn’t like pancakes?” Selena, everyone loves pancakes. But that has nothing to do with the subject here. Aha, oh brother. Honestly, she and Justin chose to go out and be flirty in public. You guys aren’t regular teens. It’s a big deal. Just in case Justin and Selena don’t know, there’s a thing called Paparazzi.
She also said on this date that Scooter was the one who called and told her that Justin wanted to hang out with her. And how she said ‘Yes‘ because she felt like a “big sister to him and wanted to protect him.” Yah’know, I can’t help but notice Scooter is always caught in the middle of these two between everything they do. He has some part in it. Then when they ask him questions he either lies about it or avoids the subject. Think about it. Maybe he’s into this publicity thing also. The more fame Justin gets, the more money Scooter gets. Anyways..
Next was jingle ball. Jingle ball 2010 wasn’t a big deal probably to most Beliebers because Selena and Justin weren’t seen together. But what you most likely don’t know, they were together. Trust me, they were together.
Honestly, I don’t really get the point of them having to take the picture of Justin with this coat on. I just don’t understand how this could possibly have “leaked.” It was obvious that they WANTED this to come out. Either that, or Justin was feeling silly and decided to flash a picture of him in the coat and send it out. Selena was probably performing or something while this picture was taken, or thye were all just hanging out in the dressing room. Who knows what really went on? This isn’t all innocent though. I don’t understand why the paps made a big deal out of this. Who knows, maybe it was Jelena’s ‘people’ doing. Like most of everything.
After Jingle ball went through, it was Thanksgiving/Christmas time. This is when it gets funky.
(Down there is Priscilla Deleon, by the way.) Anyway, up there is the picture of Justin and Selena together on Thanksgiving in Selena’s house. Funny how in the picture that “someone” sent to the Paparazzi, only got them two. (Which is what was apparently stated.) I mean I’m pretty sure there’s more to the picture, like the full family, but it’s funny how this was only picture that surfaced the web to the paps. Not to say someone didn’t crop it and only leak this, but to me it seems like Pattie wasn’t part of this Thanksgiving decision fully. Now, I don’t know if Justin was with his parents, grandparents, etc. in this little get together with Selena, but it doesn’t look like it to me. He was said to be with his full family. Not just with his mom and Selena’s family. Also notice how out of place Justin looks. He’s barely smiling and just looks downright uncomfortable. Meanwhile Selena just looks happy about it. Justin could of showed a little emotion in the picture. It was his first Thanksgiving with his ‘girlfriend.’ Right?
Next big public outing, I have nothing to say to…
OUTING NUMBER FOUR: LE TOUR BUS FUN 😉 – December 19th, 2010.
I honestly, don’t want to know what they did in that tour bus, or why. But the more deeper into the relationship we get, the more touch. Woah there, Biebs.
NEXT. THE BIGGEST DEAL OF 2010. It was a vacation we’d like to call…
OUTING FOUR: LE TOUCHY ST. LUCIA!
This was honestly just…. no words really. This whole St. Lucia, thing changed our opinion on Justin fully.  Justin and Selena went to a private place in St. Lucia with Justin’s buddy, Busty. And Selena’s cousin, Priscilla. Justin and Selena were awfully touchy-feely during this vacation. So when this happened, things switched a bit. Obviously we all know something fishy is going on between Justin and Selena. But this vacation included a lot of lies on Justin’s part. There was a lot of things that weren’t exactly true. He said he was spending Christmas with his family and ‘chilling’ the whole vacation with them. But honestly, what the hell. What kind of Christmas was that? How do you spend Christmas with your alleged girlfriend, best friend, and girlfriend’s cousin? Where was Justin’s mother through all of this? We know for a fact that she was on the cruise with them and Justin’s father at the time, well for part of it. Because Justin was still 16 at this time. If it weren’t for paps ‘catching’ these pictures, we all would of thought Justin was in Canada his whole break. More importantly, I love how the paparazzi never caught Justin and Selena kissing. They looked like they were close to kissing, but didn’t kiss. Or it was a kiss on the cheek. Also these pictures look awfully posed to me. It’s like those “couple” pictures of swimwear you see in Vogue or Abercrombie and Fitch catalogs, am I right? And funny how the Paps only get the perfect shots of them touching. Not talking. Just touching.. Mhm. So does that mean they spent their whole time out there just rubbing on each other? Haha, dirty minds (;
Now before we continue, I would like to present to you all with the three Jelena theories.
a) Jelena is a full publicity stunt for both Selena, and Justin. Whoever says this, sorry but you’re wrong. A lot of Selenators just love to flip the script and claim Justin is using Selena. But let’s be honest right now, shall we? If you have more popularity, fame and money than someone why would you need to use them? And, If you have OVER 9 million followers on twitter and over 20 million ‘likers’ on facebook would you really want to take publicity from someone who was less ‘likers’ and less followers than you? Yeah, Didn’t think so. Besides, (not kissing ass here) Justin seems like an overall sweet boy. He treats his mother with respect and we’ve seen how he treats other woman. We doubt he’d do something that disrespectful especially since he doesn’t need to use Selena for anything. While on the other hand she does. You never know. But for all we know, maybe he could be using the fact that he’s with Selena as an advantage. Again, it’s really up to all opinions.
b) Jelena is a sex couple. (Friends with Benefits)
Not going to lie, this passed through our minds a couple times now because of how sexual they got. Especially after St. Lucia and…
LE VANITY FAIR 😉 – February 27th, 2011.
Left bottom picture. Obviously Justin is shoving his head into whatever kind of cleavage the boy thinks Selena has in there.
I honestly, don’t know what that is. Like is that a sign of respect where Selena comes from? Is that some type of cool think that people do nowadays? Nah, that’s just sexual. So there is a possibility that they are ‘friends’ with benefits. Minus the ‘friends’ part because I don’t really know how good of a ‘friend’ Selena really is. *cough* I mean what “friend” doesn’t visit their ‘best friend’ Demi in rehab (only calls, but doesn’t visit) but has time to go cruising with the Biebster? Anyways, that’s on a different topic. But why would Selena and Justin feel the need to take a picture of their pictures or let Paparazzi (that they “hate so much“) take pictures of it? I’m sure they could of bought two sets of these pictures from the machine. They are Millionaires you know.
But the thing that gets me is just how Selena looks like she’s the one who controls Justin. Pushing his head in and all of that. He looks like a lost puppy in all these actions. They seem kinda pushy, both of them. It just seems all planned out. Because it’s like right after they take those pictures, the paps get a snap of it, then they move on.
c)  Jelena is just a publicity stunt for Selena.
That’s more like it!
Keep those three theories in mind, and on with the time-line.
Let’s go forward to a great, great event that occurred at the Vanity Fair party as well…
LE FAKE KISS – February 27th, 2011
We call this kiss fake for a bunch of reasons. Obvious first reason: Justin had his eyes open. Before we get deep, let’s ask some questions. When a boy kisses you are his eyes open? Is he looking directly at a camera? “No and No.Cool, just asking. Moving along.. So Justin’s talking to some dude, showing him stuff on his iPhone. Don’t know much about that. But after that, Selena tilts her head and it looks like she smiles at Justin then he kisses her. Then they lick they’re lips and look around casually. Honestly, what kind of kiss was that? Here is an example of a REAL kiss shared between two stars:
Zac does not quickly pull away and look for paparazzi, neither does Vanessa. Given, they are much older. But a relationship is a relationship and that Jelena kiss was fake. I also love how Justin was looking directly at the camera when he kissed her. Then when he pulled away he barely smiled and she did. It was the quickest little kiss ever. Some would think “Well maybe they didn’t want anyone to see them kissing!” But that would make no sense, my friend. Because they had just attended a red carpet even together and took some very dirty pictures of themselves in a booth, which they SHARED with the Paparazzi normally. Also I’m loving how for some awkward reason the Paparazzi just seemed to be watching Justin and Selena. It’s like the Paps knew they were going to do something. Am I right? So if you still don’t think that was the fakest kiss in the history of celebrity kisses, then you’re just in denial.
(Some people say Justin didn’t fully kiss Selena because they’d just been dating for a few months. Haha, that’s funny also, because when Justin and Jasmine had their thing for a few weeks. Justin sure did give Jasmine’s tongue a fun time those car pictures last October.”
Afterward, we had…
LE HABIEBERTH DAY! – March 1st, 2011!
First of all, I love how Justin was at a mall with Alfredo and Selena on his 17th birthday. I would have spent it with my family. All of it. And there were rumors that Justin had bought expensive Selena some things on his birthday as he isn’t sweet enough, but that’s not what we’re here to talk about. (Holla at the Loui Vuitton :D)
We’re here to talk about…
Would the Justin you know and you look up to do something like that? It’s safe to say he changes when he’s around Selena because he does. He becomes this disrespectful, annoying little jerk. We’re not taking his side on this. It was wrong what he did and it was wrong what he did in incidents before this. (The incident at the hotel when he ignored those fans)OR (The incident at the movies when he almost ignored that little girl) He just acts totally different, probably to amuse her. Or make it seem like he’s more mature, but this isn’t mature. This is sad, fake, and annoying.
Moving on to a big part of the fake part here on this time-line…
Pretty sure all of YA’LL remember this, don’t you? Justin tweets Selena he misses her, “Aww! So cute! How is that wrong?!” Honestly, kids. Do we even have to explain this to you? Back to what I said about the haunted house tweet. Why would Justin tweet Selena saying that he missed her if he could have texted her? Does that make any sense to you at all? “Well, maybe her phone died!” WRONG, because she tweeted him back directly from Echofon.
Echofon is a MOBILE APPLICATION, for people with twitter. Everybody uses it. So how could he have not texted her saying that he missed her?
Also, what kills me is that Selena replied exactly 11 minutes after. It was like he told her to go reply to his tweet. Selena hadn’t been on twitter for like a day or two, before she tweeted that. So I want to know how she all of a sudden decided to get on and tweet Justin back EXACTLY when he tweeted her. Coincidence? Don’t think so.
(We’re aware that you can choose who you want to get tweets from. But this is what’s interesting also, she only comes on once for Justin but not her fans at that time. And considering that she was just sitting around, because if she was busy, she probably wouldn’t of replied that early, she could of been thanking her fans via Twitter too, right? Not only Justin?)
So then recently, we have Malaysia. Which we already wrote about.
But not just yet Beliebers, there’s more to the story. And what a sad story it is. Apparently Justin took a picture of his iPhone4g background of him and Selena. (April 22) Here’s the pic:
And ‘somehow’ the paparazzi got a hold of it and sent it around. First. There is no possibly way a paparazzi can get a hold of your personal phone pictures unless you send it to them or they steal your phone. Which they didn’t. Why would Justin need to use his other phone to take a picture of his background of him and Selena? Something’s not adding up. Also, that phone background picture has never been seen anywhere else. So that’s a private “Jelena” picture. Some say that Justin left his phone lying around and a fan saw it, then clicked on the screen, then took the picture and then left the diner. Excuse me while we die of laughter. First of all. Why would Justin Bieber, leave his phone (that has everything on it, possibly secrets, important phone numbers and who knows what else he’s hiding on there) on a dining table in another country? And we’re sure he went to dinner with other people, cause I’m sure a famous star wouldn’t go eat dinner alone. So odds are they would of told him about his phone being left on the table. And then he ‘somehow’ comes back for the phone and leaves.
And we must not forget that time when Selena lied about skyping with Justin (when he was clearly sleeping at 4 am in the morning), just so them could get more attention for RockMafia’s song that he’s working on with her. Read post here: http://wp.me/p14Tyr-2m
All these things going through your head. Everything is adding up now, isn’t it?
Basically to break it down; Their relationship is a publicity stunt. Not mainly for Justin though, but for Selena. Selena’s ending her show Wizards of Waverly Place on Disney this year and that’s where 99% of her income comes from. Since she’s leaving Disney, her fame could slowly slip away. She needs to keep up that balance though. People do things like that ALL the time in young Hollywood. Some go as far as even getting married. It keeps their name out there more and keeps the drama more interesting. The only reason Justin never confirms their relationship is because he knows there’s nothing to it. Why do you think when Justin and Caitlin broke up he talked about how he dated her and how he enjoyed her company. But he NEVER talks openly about dating Selena? Because Jaitlin was built on reality and Jelena was based on fame. Selena’s ‘people’ are just using Justin to keep her name out there and increase her fan-base. (As you can see she’s gotten 2 million new followers from Justin and apparently her dating Justin was one of the reasons Selena was even allowed to open for an award at the Grammys.) Dating Justin brings her loads of more opportunities. I think the only reason Justin is going along with this, is because he’s had a crush on Selena before and maybe he thinks doing this could lead to something more? But I doubt it. I just wonder how Justin will feel once Jelena is over. He could have some deep feelings for her you know.. It would hurt him to see that she’s moved onto someone else and that their relationship went by faster than a second. Both Justin and Selena are basically in the middle of all of this. I think this is the doing of their people. But then again, maybe Selena automatically woke up a week later after she said she would never date Justin, and decided he was “the one” for her. Then he took her on a cruise and they fell in love. Like a fairytale! Back to reality here..
I just want to know why Selena constantly puts Justin down saying she’d “never date him” “he’s a little dork” and they’re “nothing more than friends.” But then two weeks later when his new movie, NSN is coming out, he’s up to win 2 Grammies, he’s ending his tour that brought in millions of dollars and he’s been labeled as the Most Famous Teen Star on the Planet, Selena THEN all of a sudden loves him? Haha.. she’s funny.
So this is it; Why would Justin and Selena feel the need to look for Paparazzi whenever they ‘kiss’ while some couples that REALLY like each other look into each others eyes? Why would they feel the need to take a picture OF a picture they’re already in? Why would they feel the need to lie constantly about how they’re not dating? But it’s sweet that Justin is trying to help out a friend I guess. Like he always says…… “#SupportYourFriends” right?
XOXOPLB (@XOXOPLB)

Ps; You could honestly think what you want. But this post has a point. We’re just gonna laugh when “Jelena” ends and she’s dates a new guy after. Like what happened with Nelena, Telena, Delena and others. At least we have proof it’s fake. What do you guys have? The fact that she flew in to see Justin? Well Nick Jonas flew to LA, just to see Selena couple of weeks ago. Not suspicious, right? Selena flying in to see Justin is nothing. She’s a millionaire, it’s not a big deal. Everyone can have their own opinion on this Maybe Selena and Justin just happen to like sending their “private” pictures to paps. Who knows? If you disagree, that’s fine. Post a comment. But this is from OUR view. We’re not even Beliebers like that either or jealous. I mean I’m a fan of Jasmine V and Caitlin who’ve dated Justin). Jelena is fake, whether you like it or not. Her relationships last no longer than 6 months/tops. Wonder why.. Or maybe Justin just likes denying things. People say Justin would never lie. But “Never Say Never” right?
This is Hollywood. 99% of the things you see on TV are fake. Sorry, if you think fame is based on talent. Because nowadays? It’s not.
Both Justin and Selena could be getting a lot out of this. Not to mention their “people” who by the way, control almost their whole life.
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Jelena Reunited and It feels So…Awkward.

Justin and Selena are at it again. And by ‘it’, I have no idea what I mean.

The two were seen canoodling at Selena’s arrival in Kuala Lumpur International Airport, in Malaysia. I don’t know about you, but this seems fishy. (Actually, personally everything that happens between them is fishy to me). Any who, here are some picture of the two at the airport.

Now before I get into the question that you all are probably itching to know…”I thought you guys said Jelena was in a rough patch/Broke up! What is the meaning of this?!”. I want to analyze both of the pictures for you. It just seems like the ‘smart’ thing to do.

Now, first picture, of course Selena is hiding her face like she always is. This actually has nothing to do with Jelena because I have noticed that she covers her face whenever the paparazzi are around. It’s probably all the flashes, yet I still don’t see why she has to cover her face when Justin deals with the flashes just perfectly. Also, Selena is smiling. Justin is probably in the middle of a sentence and Selena is laughing at something that he said. It really doesn’t get any deeper than that.

Second picture, Selena is obviously ahead of Justin and is waving to god knows who. But then behind Selena we have Justin, who is giving one of the creepiest, fakest smiles I have ever seen him give to any Paparazzi. Honestly kid, if you’re not happy with the paps don’t try to be all smiley for them. We all know it’s fake. And behind Justin, theres Kenny. I can’t read the expression on his face but it looks like he’s giving one of those stressed out looks.

So there is my analyzed version of both of the pictures, be mindful that I have no idea what the situation was in real life…It was just an educated guess that came from my mind.

Moving on to the main topic of this blog, here. Alot of you have been tweeting us about how we basically are putting false info out there about Jelena “breaking up”. Honestly, I have nothing to say to that. If you don’t want to believe us then that’s on you but the proof is right in your face. Jelena WAS going through a rough patch in the beginning of the tour. It’s beyond obvious, but that’s another blog on it’s own right there. Being that we had said Jelena had broken up a lot of our readers were shocked on Justin and Selena’s little ‘get-together’ in Malaysia today.
And a lot of Jelena fans were getting extremely excited about this great ‘news’. If I were you I wouldn’t get too excited. My thoughts on this whole Jelena thing, is that it’s just a little plan to get everyone to hop on the drama bus again. They want rumors to go around, and they want people to start talking. They want buzz, buzz, buzz, and by ‘Jelena’ trending on twitter it’s obvious that their getting it. Because as we’ve mentioned, Selena is a fame whore and does anything to gain fame, off of anybody.

Let me give you the 411 on why this whole situation seems fishy to me.
Selena has been meeting up with her Nick Jonas lately, a lot. It’s pretty obvious she’s not over him. Those two have had a very deep, very interesting past together way before Justin even came in. Nick flew to LA just the other day to see Selena, too. So it’s not just her making the effort to seeing him, he is also a culprit. It could be possible that they are ‘just friends’ but come on, let’s be serious here.

Besides the ‘Nelena’ rumors, Selena was or still is touring with All Star Weekend. I’m not sure what is the deal with that, but I don’t think she is anymore. Yeah…Little known fact, Cameron Quiseng, (one of the guys from All Star Weekend) was rumored to be dating Selena Gomez around the time All Star Weekend first came out. Surprise, surprise. Then I guess after figuring out they the group wasn’t going to be a big hit, Selena dropped him and moved on to the next one. But recently, Quiseng and Gomez have been seen around a lot. And it seemed like one of the group members dropped a hint on the two in the video on Selena’s youtube page.

Listen at around 0:25. Selena says “Basically I’m going to be the only girl on this tour, HELP ME..” Then Michael Martinez, (the one to the right of Selena) says, “You’ve got Cameron…”. Then Cameron leans over and says something to Michael behind Selena.
I don’t know about you, but the two seem pretty close.

Now obviously, we know Selena is going to be the one to hang out with the guys. But, “What about Justin?!” You ask. “He’s innocent, right?” Think again young grasshoppers. Justin is just as guilty in this ‘cheater cheater pumpkin eater’ situation we’ve got here. Justin has been DM’ing a lot of fans recently. Knowing the boys hormones are going crazy and his ‘girlfriend’ isn’t there to give him the pleasures that he needs as a 17 year old teenager, he is going to flirt and be dirty.
March 22nd, @iBeliebed2007 had tweeted Justin saying something that was pretty sexual:

And Justin, being his 17 year old self, replied to her saying:

By the way the reason "Twitter" is spelled with 3 t's is because that's what she saved twitter as on her phone. It's not fake.

Sounds pretty cocky. “Nah, that’s not weird, I’m used to girls wanting all this sexiness.” Hahaha, no but let’s be serious.
Then after this happened, 3 girls DM’ed Justin saying something dirty, and he replied. Not gonna say he replied FULL FORCE dirty, but that’s another story that we haven’t digged up all the details on yet.

Anyway, see? Both Justin and Selena have some part in this business. And then for them two to meet up in Malaysia after all this drama, I can’t  help but think they aren’t in the happiest state right now.
Must have been pretty awkward for Justin to see his girlfriend after all those rumors of her with her ex, huh?

But what do you think about this reunion? Think them two are actually together again? Or, is this just for publicity again?
Do you even think they were together from the get-go?
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XOXOPLB ; Kimberly. HOLLA AT ME!

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